|12th June 2013 05:11 AM|
Interesting real world feedback, thanks BelSkorpio, would have been great to get the views of the carbon Futura against isonic?
Also be intersting to see how a new Futura would fair against a 5 year old isonic? Anyone?
|10th June 2013 03:58 PM|
I've tested yesterday for the first time the Futura 111/technora in 15-19 knots. Standard Drake 40 fin.
I used the older NP V8 freerace 7.5 sail (2 cambers) on it which was a perfect match for the board.
My conclusions are very positive and I want to compare them with my isonics.
What you can feel right away is that the futura rides a lot softer than the Isonic. Partly because of the technora perhaps, but certainly you also feel the effect of the narrower tail that cuts well through the chop. When planing at full speed it is super stable and absorbs the shocks with ease. It rides like on autopilot. Chop hopping is a lot of fun on the Futura.
I also felt the drawside of the narrower tail clearly, i.e. on reasonably flat water, I'm definitely slower on this board c/w my Isonics, I'm coming slower out of the jibes and I need to push the board more downwind to get it onto the plane. You also feel the lulls much more c/w an isonic. The latter tends to plane easier through them.
When it comes to jibing, I found that the Futura jibes easy, but I prefer the way how my Isonics 101 and 122 jibe, i.e. they jibe much sharper and more pronounced. A full speed jibe is much more of a thrill on an Isonic than on a Futura. With my Isonics, I'm 100% confident that they won't slip out of the carve and I cannot say the same of the Futura. Coming out of the jibe on an Isonic is with much more speed and guaranteed planing, that's for sure. I also tried a few laydown jibes yesterday, but I didn't seem to get them right, the way I wanted.
So according to me the Futura is really a very nice and easy board, but there is a price that needs to be payed for the higher comfort c/w the Isonic.
I think I made a good choice for my son, who still could not try the board until now. Yesterday he had to study for his exams and the weeks/months before it has been exceptionally cold in Belgium/Holland. Not normal for the time of the year.
|16th May 2013 11:11 AM|
Just to let everybody know how the story ended. I did buy the Futura 111 Carbon and sailed it for the first time this weekend. What a board, it's nothing short of great! Never been on something so stable at really high speeds, also planes early and super easy to jibe. Chop is no problem, not great but not bad either. Only complaint is the system that stops the foot straps from twisting, doesn't work for me at all, so need to do something there.
Again, thanks for all help in getting this decision right!
|21st February 2013 07:59 AM|
Both boards are great. I have both. For heavy chop I use the carve. No question about it.
If the board handles chop better it will be a faster and more enjoyable ride.
Sail size the fu111 will handle a 7.5m the c111 will handle a 7m as the biggest for comfort.
|21st February 2013 07:58 AM|
Thanks again everybody for the really helpful insights! The range is what got me to go for the Futura in the end. Live in Sweden so still ice on the sea but will let you know once i get out there on the new board...
|20th February 2013 03:58 PM|
Funny, I had a few weeks ago the same conflict.
My son had already a 90L freewave board and I wanted to buy him a new 111L board as a replacement for his older 125L board. Target sails 6.4 and 7.5. I was also doubting between the Fu111 and the Carve111.
Because I found on the 2nd hand market a Fu111/Technora of 2011 in a very good state, I've bought it.
It was only used a couple of times and not that expensive.
Although I bought it for my sun, I'm also very eager to ride the Futura and compare it with my Isonics. Until now I've never been on a Futura.
At the moment we are waiting for the weather to get warmer to try the Futura.
I came to same conclusion as Farlo. If you already have a 90L freewave for sails from 4.0 - 5.5, then the Futura extends the wind range in a better way c/w the Carve.
I also reckon that the tail cutouts of the Futura will compensate for the smaller tail width of the Carve to handle the chop. The Carve will probably jibe a bit better, but that's about the only sacrifice I see.
We'll still need to verify it in practice of course. Let's hope we made the right choice.
Hope to let you know soon !
|20th February 2013 10:33 AM|
|Farlo||Was about to tell you the same. The Carve would be an ideal multi-purpose one-board solution for you with 5.0-7.5 sails, reminescent of the S-Type. But if you have also a 90L Freevawe, then the Futura will offer extra wind range.|
|20th February 2013 07:51 AM|
|PrydeMan||I've sailed futura boards and this season I decided to give the carve 111 a go. What a board. It goes any where and can be quick or freemove. It handles to chop really well. Even heavy chop.|
|20th February 2013 07:32 AM|
Appreciate all feed back! Still not 100% clear but I'm leaning towards the Futura as I think this board would offer more "growth" potential. I also should have added that I have a 90litre freewave board for windier days.
|20th February 2013 06:15 AM|
In my opinion, in your case the Carve 111 will be the best option for you, this board is more easy in Jibe than the Futura who is more a FreeRace machine, early planning fast acceleration and top end speed.
The Carve is more relax board and more easy to learn jibe.
Hope this help
All the best
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