Early planing and width in race board - Page 2

23rd February 2013, 10:07 PM

since i went from a fun/race longboard to something similiar to the SB US, let me ask Remi what i consider a tough question

would Remi prefer a Phantom over the SB US ?? for early planing, versatility , etc ??

and for a heavyweight Phantom 295 okay ??
used one in the area

jw

Remi · 3rd March 2013, 02:09 AM

Hi Jw,

Phantom Race 377 and UltraSonic 147 are very different machine but both plane very early, the main difference fo planning on this 2 boards is that the PR are more easy for passive palnning, almost don't need to pump to get on the plane.
Then board are very different, for reaching the US will be way faster but deep down wind it will be very hard to beat the PR. Then for up wind light winds the PR is a killer machine, the US need more wind but still better than any other iSonic but less than Formula.
I think with this you can make your own choice.

The Phantom 295, just a bit later than the PR 377 and is perfect board and very competitive in the Race-Board Class youth under 75 kgs, but can go up wind with out dagger board when you have 15 knots or more compare to PR 377. Even at 92 kgs for planning condition you get a lot fun and don't feel the board is to small, I feel it only in non planning condition.

All the best

3rd March 2013, 10:42 AM

merci Remi

c'est apprecié

it is as i thought - all great boards
guess i should get on of each :-)
this summer i will make my decision whether i prefer race longboard over free formula

thanx again

3rd March 2013, 10:43 AM

one of each - was meant

jw

Jean-Marc · 13th March 2013, 09:37 AM

JW,

Since both the UltraSonic and Phantom Race are nice board when planing, I guess the remaining deciding factor is how much fun are you going to spend when you go riding in non-planing conditions.

Is it possible to schlogg with US147 ? Yes. Is it fun ? No.
Is it possible to shlogg with PR380 ? Yes. Is it fun ? Yes, yes, yes (sorry, never tested PR377 yet).

In sum, are you interested to ride in non-planing conditions or not at all ?

Cheers !

JM

3rd March 2013, 02:09 AM	#12
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Jw, Phantom Race 377 and UltraSonic 147 are very different machine but both plane very early, the main difference fo planning on this 2 boards is that the PR are more easy for passive palnning, almost don't need to pump to get on the plane. Then board are very different, for reaching the US will be way faster but deep down wind it will be very hard to beat the PR. Then for up wind light winds the PR is a killer machine, the US need more wind but still better than any other iSonic but less than Formula. I think with this you can make your own choice. The Phantom 295, just a bit later than the PR 377 and is perfect board and very competitive in the Race-Board Class youth under 75 kgs, but can go up wind with out dagger board when you have 15 knots or more compare to PR 377. Even at 92 kgs for planning condition you get a lot fun and don't feel the board is to small, I feel it only in non planning condition. All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Remi; 3rd March 2013 at 02:14 AM.

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23rd February 2013, 10:07 PM	#11
jw xxx Guest Posts: n/a	since i went from a fun/race longboard to something similiar to the SB US, let me ask Remi what i consider a tough question would Remi prefer a Phantom over the SB US ?? for early planing, versatility , etc ?? and for a heavyweight Phantom 295 okay ?? used one in the area jw

3rd March 2013, 10:42 AM	#13
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	merci Remi c'est apprecié it is as i thought - all great boards guess i should get on of each :-) this summer i will make my decision whether i prefer race longboard over free formula thanx again

3rd March 2013, 10:43 AM	#14
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	one of each - was meant jw

13th March 2013, 09:37 AM	#15
Jean-Marc TEAM Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,241	JW, Since both the UltraSonic and Phantom Race are nice board when planing, I guess the remaining deciding factor is how much fun are you going to spend when you go riding in non-planing conditions. Is it possible to schlogg with US147 ? Yes. Is it fun ? No. Is it possible to shlogg with PR380 ? Yes. Is it fun ? Yes, yes, yes (sorry, never tested PR377 yet). In sum, are you interested to ride in non-planing conditions or not at all ? Cheers ! JM