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BelSkorpio · 13th September 2011, 01:13 AM

MOP,

With my weight (87kg), there's no way I plane in 8-12 knots without an 11m2. Perhaps from time to time when I catch a little gust, yes. Last saturday, I could plane all the time in 11-14 knots with the US + 8.8 sail, but very marginal, i.e. without power reserve. Such a pity that I didn't try the 11m2.

Mortadelo,

May I ask your weight ?
In what kind of wind conditions are you using the 10,7 ?

mortadelo · 13th September 2011, 01:58 AM

Belskorpio,

Mi weight is 87 Kg and the wind condition that specific day was 12-16 knot gusty wind.
I can also mention that just that day we were only tree surfers at that spot. Me, a guy using his formula board and his "biggest" sail (7point 11 m2), and a lady on a kona.....

\mn/ Miguel

BelSkorpio · 14th September 2011, 01:05 AM

Mortadelo,

Nice to hear that you find your 10.7 comfortable to use on the Ultrasonic.
Have you already tried with less wind than 12-16, say 8-12 ?
I think that a lot of people (like myself) are also interested how the US behaves in these "marginal" conditions.

Cheers.

MarcoM · 17th September 2011, 10:27 PM

Today I got my US147 2012. What a nice looking board

I put some pictures with it. I hope I can surf with this board on tuesday with my North sails S-type 9,5.

I'll let you know

mark h · 18th September 2011, 12:36 AM

Very nice, I prefer the look and feel of wood more than carbon

Naturel · 18th September 2011, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcoM

Today I got my US147 2012. What a nice looking board

I put some pictures with it. I hope I can surf with this board on tuesday with my North sails S-type 9,5.

I'll let you know

The tail is white not Wood like picture on starboard website !?!

What is the weight of your board?
You 'll see it's a fantastic board

Thanks

MarcoM · 18th September 2011, 05:03 PM

Yes you are right the tail is white. maybe the painter liked his work to much

Also the graffiti on the board is a bit different it is more red then orange. The bottom off the board is grey.

I have measured the weight of the board with the footstraps on it, it is 9,1 kg

MOP · 18th September 2011, 09:45 PM

8 m/s US 147 Drake R13 58 cm ncx 8.0. quite choppy: 25 knots

BelSkorpio · 31st October 2011, 01:16 AM

Today I've used the Ultrasonic 147 carbon / 2011 / standard drake R13/58 fin, with a 10.9m2 Gunsails Mega XR rig in 8-12 knots.
I want to share my experiences in these ultra light wind conditions.
My weight is 87 kg.
I'm not a professional, but I have about 4 years of formula experience without participating in any competitions.
I'm windsurfing for more than 20 years.

When I arrived at my spot there was only 5 knots of wind.
Too little of course and I was schlogging for almost 1 hour.

Then the breeze kicked in.
When I started planing, I immediately returned briefly to the shore to mesure the wind speed: 8-9 knots average.
A little while later, there came a lot of formula's on the water. Typical "rush fever"

If I compare with my formula, I think the formula planes a little bit earlier, not much.
The main reason is the fin, I think. I still need to find a better fin that gives more lift in these ultra light winds.

My worries about an 11m2 sail being too heavy and too big for this board were ungrounded.
On the contrary, an 11 sail seems to fit the board very well.

Planing is very easy and light. The board feels much lighter than a formula.
When the wind picked up to 10-11 average with sometimes peaks to 15 knots, I never felt too much power on the reach.
THe US flies over small chop and when you go downwind you never get the feeling that the nose wants to dive into the chop. No catapult fear nor ankle pressure like on a formula, where you really need to sheet in, on reaching courses when the wind picks up.
Without any doubt, on reaching courses I am faster with this board than with my formula.

BUT ! THe US is no formula, it's a slalom.
I've tried to keep up with a few formula guys. On a reach no problem at all. But when they point sharper, they all leave me behind for dead. They are all also a little bit earlier planing than me. If I had to race them in a typical course race, I would have no chance at all. There is only 1 course, I could compete with them, i.e. the reach course.

Actually, during the ultra light wind conditions, I've had quite a few struggles today with pointing and returning to the point where I left off. This is where my formula used to excell. I wonder if a better fin will help me with this. I was too lazy to go and use my R19/70 fin of my formula on the US. I should have.

So, the big question:
What would be the best fin for these conditions ? Anyone with experience ?

mortadelo · 31st October 2011, 02:03 AM

DEB R16 64 cm works find for me with Evo 2 10,7. I haven’t tried it with the 12 yet.

13th September 2011, 01:13 AM	#11
BelSkorpio Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 429	MOP, With my weight (87kg), there's no way I plane in 8-12 knots without an 11m2. Perhaps from time to time when I catch a little gust, yes. Last saturday, I could plane all the time in 11-14 knots with the US + 8.8 sail, but very marginal, i.e. without power reserve. Such a pity that I didn't try the 11m2. Mortadelo, May I ask your weight ? In what kind of wind conditions are you using the 10,7 ? __________________ IS87 / IS101 / IS122 / US147 Last edited by BelSkorpio; 13th September 2011 at 01:21 AM.

14th September 2011, 01:05 AM	#13
BelSkorpio Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 429	Mortadelo, Nice to hear that you find your 10.7 comfortable to use on the Ultrasonic. Have you already tried with less wind than 12-16, say 8-12 ? I think that a lot of people (like myself) are also interested how the US behaves in these "marginal" conditions. Cheers. __________________ IS87 / IS101 / IS122 / US147

18th September 2011, 12:36 AM	#15
mark h Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NW England, Posts: 663	Very nice, I prefer the look and feel of wood more than carbon __________________ Cheers - Mark H The toys: iSW44 - - iSW49 - iSW53 - iSW58 - iS107 - iS137 - F161. North Warps: F2011 5.2m, 5.7m, 6.3m, 7m, 8m, 8.6m, 9.5m F2006 11m. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

18th September 2011, 05:03 PM	#17
MarcoM Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Netherlands Posts: 25	Yes you are right the tail is white. maybe the painter liked his work to much Also the graffiti on the board is a bit different it is more red then orange. The bottom off the board is grey. I have measured the weight of the board with the footstraps on it, it is 9,1 kg __________________ Marco F111, F93 ('11) North RAM F11 8,5 North RAM F12 7,8/ 7,0 / 6,3 / 5,7 / 5,2 North S-type 9,5('11)

31st October 2011, 01:16 AM	#19
BelSkorpio Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 429	Today I've used the Ultrasonic 147 carbon / 2011 / standard drake R13/58 fin, with a 10.9m2 Gunsails Mega XR rig in 8-12 knots. I want to share my experiences in these ultra light wind conditions. My weight is 87 kg. I'm not a professional, but I have about 4 years of formula experience without participating in any competitions. I'm windsurfing for more than 20 years. When I arrived at my spot there was only 5 knots of wind. Too little of course and I was schlogging for almost 1 hour. Then the breeze kicked in. When I started planing, I immediately returned briefly to the shore to mesure the wind speed: 8-9 knots average. A little while later, there came a lot of formula's on the water. Typical "rush fever" If I compare with my formula, I think the formula planes a little bit earlier, not much. The main reason is the fin, I think. I still need to find a better fin that gives more lift in these ultra light winds. My worries about an 11m2 sail being too heavy and too big for this board were ungrounded. On the contrary, an 11 sail seems to fit the board very well. Planing is very easy and light. The board feels much lighter than a formula. When the wind picked up to 10-11 average with sometimes peaks to 15 knots, I never felt too much power on the reach. THe US flies over small chop and when you go downwind you never get the feeling that the nose wants to dive into the chop. No catapult fear nor ankle pressure like on a formula, where you really need to sheet in, on reaching courses when the wind picks up. Without any doubt, on reaching courses I am faster with this board than with my formula. BUT ! THe US is no formula, it's a slalom. I've tried to keep up with a few formula guys. On a reach no problem at all. But when they point sharper, they all leave me behind for dead. They are all also a little bit earlier planing than me. If I had to race them in a typical course race, I would have no chance at all. There is only 1 course, I could compete with them, i.e. the reach course. Actually, during the ultra light wind conditions, I've had quite a few struggles today with pointing and returning to the point where I left off. This is where my formula used to excell. I wonder if a better fin will help me with this. I was too lazy to go and use my R19/70 fin of my formula on the US. I should have. So, the big question: What would be the best fin for these conditions ? Anyone with experience ? __________________ IS87 / IS101 / IS122 / US147

13th September 2011, 01:58 AM	#12
mortadelo New Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 4	Belskorpio, Mi weight is 87 Kg and the wind condition that specific day was 12-16 knot gusty wind. I can also mention that just that day we were only tree surfers at that spot. Me, a guy using his formula board and his "biggest" sail (7point 11 m2), and a lady on a kona..... \mn/ Miguel

18th September 2011, 09:45 PM	#18
MOP Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 115	8 m/s US 147 Drake R13 58 cm ncx 8.0. quite choppy: 25 knots

31st October 2011, 02:03 AM	#20
mortadelo New Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 4	DEB R16 64 cm works find for me with Evo 2 10,7. I haven’t tried it with the 12 yet.

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