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Alena · 15th October 2012, 02:11 PM

Hi Roger
I did clean off the grey lines like you said. The issue is the beautiful wood deck of the Serenity has areas that look white and dry more like an abrasion, this mostly towards the edges of the deck, maybe the boom brushed over it. It is not a ding , looks more like an abrasion and it is not deep, just like skinning your knee. There are little lines on the deck that look like it in other places. Seems like wood that needs staining but what do I know.
Also I have trouble getting the fin out after sailing , should I send it a bit?
I took the Serenity out yesterday in the usual up and down wind here and while th others were stuck between the gusts, I was having great time and when the gust came just flying. I started enjoying the Serenity more than my large board.
Thanks a lot
Alena

Roger · 15th October 2012, 11:44 PM

Hi Alena,
" did clean off the grey lines like you said."
OK! Grey lines are taken care of and you now have a way to clean them off when they reappear.

"The issue is the beautiful wood deck of the Serenity has areas that look white and dry more like an abrasion, this mostly towards the edges of the deck, maybe the boom brushed over it. It is not a ding , looks more like an abrasion and it is not deep, just like skinning your knee. There are little lines on the deck that look like it in other places. Seems like wood that needs staining but what do I know."

Your analysis is probably "spot on".
The absolute best product to use would be some penetrating epoxy. The whiteness you are seeing is probably dryer areas in the wood where it did not soak up enough epoxy resin when your board was manufactured. It's very difficult to get a "perfect soak" over several pieces of very thin wood veneer (0.010 mm thick).
So, the penetrating epoxy is about the best you can get as it will be absorbed by the dryer areas in the wood veneer to the extent possible. Jamestown Dist. has this product as well as most boat supply shops.
West Systems also now markets a penetrating epoxy.

"Also I have trouble getting the fin out after sailing , should I send it a bit?"
Better to rub it with a bar of soap (as a lubricant). If it does not slide in and out easily, take a look at
the surfaces of the fin root when you have it out and you should see areas that are black and shiny.
Those are the tight areas. Better to use a smooth flat file and just work down the shiny spots.
What fin are you using? Still the wide 70 cm that came as OEM in the board.
Try a 60 cm vertical race fin sometime. You will love it with your 7.5 m2 rig. You aren't racing so the
absolute best upwind angle is not that important, plus you can rail the board (more controllably with the
60 cm) and get the nose of your Serenity to "bite" into the water and take you upwind extremely high and fast.

I took the Serenity out yesterday in the usual up and down wind here and while th others were stuck between the gusts, I was having great time and when the gust came just flying. I started enjoying the Serenity more than my large board.
If you have a place close to the water and don't have to transport the Serenity hull (car top or?) they are
really a fun board to sail.
I have lot's of fond memories of things that happened while sailing the Serenity.

"Thanks a lot"
You are most welcome!

Enjoy,
Roger

Alena · 17th October 2012, 12:52 AM

Hi Roger
Thanks a lot for all the help.
The Serenity is actually easy to lift up on the car and after that hangs on pulleys in the garage. And considering the amount of windsurfing junk the average windsurfer accumulates it is not big deal , just one more.
Can you tell me what is this penetrating Epoxy called.?
By the way do you still go to Bonaire and if so when?
Thanks
Alena

Roger · 17th October 2012, 01:41 AM

Hi Alena,
You can find it by googling "Penetrating epoxy".
I've sent off an email to Eva-M Holman "The Board Lady" to
see what she recommends.
Any way you can send some photos of the spots on the deck
of your Serenity so Eva and I can zero in on the best materials
to repair it to it's original state?
No, I haven't been back to Bonaire in a few years as I'm back working on the
Aircraft Carrier landing systems agian almost full time.
I hope to maybe sneak away to Bonaire this winter but it will have to fit
between work missions.
Regards,
Roger

Roger · 17th October 2012, 02:46 AM

Alena,
Just got a reply back from Eva (The Board Lady).
She suggests "Smith and Co. Penetrating Resin.
Should be available at Jamestown distributors.
Roger

15th October 2012, 02:11 PM	#21
Alena New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 17	Wood finish Hi Roger I did clean off the grey lines like you said. The issue is the beautiful wood deck of the Serenity has areas that look white and dry more like an abrasion, this mostly towards the edges of the deck, maybe the boom brushed over it. It is not a ding , looks more like an abrasion and it is not deep, just like skinning your knee. There are little lines on the deck that look like it in other places. Seems like wood that needs staining but what do I know. Also I have trouble getting the fin out after sailing , should I send it a bit? I took the Serenity out yesterday in the usual up and down wind here and while th others were stuck between the gusts, I was having great time and when the gust came just flying. I started enjoying the Serenity more than my large board. Thanks a lot Alena

17th October 2012, 01:41 AM	#24
Roger Dream Team - School Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,065	Hi Alena, You can find it by googling "Penetrating epoxy". I've sent off an email to Eva-M Holman "The Board Lady" to see what she recommends. Any way you can send some photos of the spots on the deck of your Serenity so Eva and I can zero in on the best materials to repair it to it's original state? No, I haven't been back to Bonaire in a few years as I'm back working on the Aircraft Carrier landing systems agian almost full time. I hope to maybe sneak away to Bonaire this winter but it will have to fit between work missions. Regards, Roger Last edited by Roger; 18th October 2012 at 03:48 AM.

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15th October 2012, 11:44 PM	#22
Roger Dream Team - School Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,065	Hi Alena, " did clean off the grey lines like you said." OK! Grey lines are taken care of and you now have a way to clean them off when they reappear. "The issue is the beautiful wood deck of the Serenity has areas that look white and dry more like an abrasion, this mostly towards the edges of the deck, maybe the boom brushed over it. It is not a ding , looks more like an abrasion and it is not deep, just like skinning your knee. There are little lines on the deck that look like it in other places. Seems like wood that needs staining but what do I know." Your analysis is probably "spot on". The absolute best product to use would be some penetrating epoxy. The whiteness you are seeing is probably dryer areas in the wood where it did not soak up enough epoxy resin when your board was manufactured. It's very difficult to get a "perfect soak" over several pieces of very thin wood veneer (0.010 mm thick). So, the penetrating epoxy is about the best you can get as it will be absorbed by the dryer areas in the wood veneer to the extent possible. Jamestown Dist. has this product as well as most boat supply shops. West Systems also now markets a penetrating epoxy. "Also I have trouble getting the fin out after sailing , should I send it a bit?" Better to rub it with a bar of soap (as a lubricant). If it does not slide in and out easily, take a look at the surfaces of the fin root when you have it out and you should see areas that are black and shiny. Those are the tight areas. Better to use a smooth flat file and just work down the shiny spots. What fin are you using? Still the wide 70 cm that came as OEM in the board. Try a 60 cm vertical race fin sometime. You will love it with your 7.5 m2 rig. You aren't racing so the absolute best upwind angle is not that important, plus you can rail the board (more controllably with the 60 cm) and get the nose of your Serenity to "bite" into the water and take you upwind extremely high and fast. I took the Serenity out yesterday in the usual up and down wind here and while th others were stuck between the gusts, I was having great time and when the gust came just flying. I started enjoying the Serenity more than my large board. If you have a place close to the water and don't have to transport the Serenity hull (car top or?) they are really a fun board to sail. I have lot's of fond memories of things that happened while sailing the Serenity. "Thanks a lot" You are most welcome! Enjoy, Roger

17th October 2012, 12:52 AM	#23
Alena New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 17	Hi Roger Thanks a lot for all the help. The Serenity is actually easy to lift up on the car and after that hangs on pulleys in the garage. And considering the amount of windsurfing junk the average windsurfer accumulates it is not big deal , just one more. Can you tell me what is this penetrating Epoxy called.? By the way do you still go to Bonaire and if so when? Thanks Alena

17th October 2012, 02:46 AM	#25
Roger Dream Team - School Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,065	Alena, Just got a reply back from Eva (The Board Lady). She suggests "Smith and Co. Penetrating Resin. Should be available at Jamestown distributors. Roger